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#13026 - 22/05/2012 21:23 Confessions of the West
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Confessions of the West


Again, western countries are calling to separate boys and girls in schools, let us read ...

Boys need to be taught separately from girls from the age of five to prevent them being damaged by the education system, experts claimed.

Dr Leonard Sax argues that boys are "turned off" by starting formal education too soon when they are expected to sit down and keep quiet in class. And, because they develop at different rates to girls, they can be discouraged from learning while very young when sat alongside female classmates.

He said: "With boys you have to start right away. If you wait until secondary school, you have waited too long. From the age of five, there are clear advantages in all-boys' education when teachers know how to take advantage of it. "

Sax refers to a few other studies that he says show that girls and boys draw differently, including one from a group of Japanese researchers who found girls' drawings typically depict still lifes of people, pets or flowers, using 10 or more crayons, favoring warm colors like red, green, beige and brown; boys, on the other hand, draw action, using 6 or fewer colors, mostly cool hues like gray, blue, silver and black. This apparent difference, which Sax argues is hard-wired, causes teachers to praise girls' artwork and make boys feel that they're drawing incorrectly.

Glory to Allah who says in the Qur'an about that issue: (And the male is not like the female) [Sûrat Al-Imrân-(The Family of Imran) verse36].

Dr. Sax believes girls also benefit from single-sex education because they can concentrate on subjects such as maths, which is traditionally seen as a "male" interest.

WeMuslims can find in the Sunnah the same instructions as the prophet peace be upon him orders us by saying: {separate between boys and girls in beds} as both of them must sleep in a separated beds if they became adults.

Also the great religion of Islam orders men not to look at forbidden things by saying: (Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.). That is purer for them. Verily, Allah is All-Aware of what they do.) [Sûrat An-Nûr-The Light-verse 30].

At the end we say that whoever read the latest researches in many disciplines will discover that western scientists and researchers are calling people to avoid alcohol, not to eat too much and women to wear decent clothes, so they returns to the principles of Islam.

Allah almighty says: (And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.) [Sûrat Al-ImrânSûrat Al-Imrân-verse85].
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m-a3-TjA_M


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#13027 - 23/05/2012 05:56 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: lindoooo]
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I´m a loser, hurray, but I´m a boy and is much more worth and more intelligent than the girls, and I don´t have to cover my hair and face with and ugly rag, what fool who ever decided that should be a common act to women.

It looks like you found Allah, well if nobody claims him within 30 days, he is all yours to keep.

Well there is no big difference in boys and girls, but we most admit that the girls are a little more grown up in relation to their age, than boys, and then we have the difference in our " privat" parts, and hurray for that, but to the muslims its forbidden things to look at, I really feel sorry for them, their creator must have created some ugly things, since they have to be covered from head to toe.

Our nonebeleiver women is created like beautifull butterflies, not asamed to show their beautifull bodies, not
turned down by an dominant god, with no senses.
In the vest we adore the beautifull women, thats no secret,while muslims put them in sacks, so you can´t see if it´s a women or a terrorrist.



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#13028 - 23/05/2012 15:25 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: treram]
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Islam respect women
And Muslim women
Comes first
In the life of a Muslim man
Unlike women in the West
Is a cheap commodity
Recognition
Women of the West


- Says Glenda Jackson carrier Oscars awarded by the Queen of Britain and the medal of the highest state medals, which was awarded the British Academy Award, Festival Montreal World says: (The instinct made man is the most powerful and dominant building on to his reasons for the force to make it in the first place, including summed up by the power of God move in life, and extract its resources, it is self-serve when the man that qualify automatically to face the burdens of life, development, and sustained in the areas of life).
B - the U.S. women's leader (Fleche Hlavi) called on women to the need for attention to the husband and children before the job of interest, and must be the husband is the head of the family and the commander of rudderless.
C - In the recent book about the life of English writer famous (Agatha Christie) it is stated as saying: (The women of modern joint-stock; because their position in society is getting worse day by day; we women act act a fool; because we have made the effort over the years; for the right to work and equality in working with men.
And men are not stupid; Hjona has it that advertisers do not mind at all that the working wife and the husband's income has doubled.
It is sad to find that after we proved we women fairer sex weak that we get back in the day to equate effort and sweat, which was awarded to men and alone).
D - says an American psychologist: (Any woman who said: I am sure myself, and went out without censor or kill herself it Haseeb and chastity).


Of women's right to divorce
At any time
From the era of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
Gave to the Mirror
The right to divorce from her husband
So far
God says in the Quran



21) And of His signs is that He created for you from yourselves mates that you may find tranquillity in them; and He placed between you affection and mercy. Indeed in that are signs for a people who give thought


(3) And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].



(6) Lodge them [in a section] of where you dwell out of your means and do not harm them in order to oppress them. And if they should be pregnant, then spend on them until they give birth. And if they breastfeed for you, then give them their payment and confer among yourselves in the acceptable way; but if you are in discord, then there may breastfeed for the father another woman


229) Divorce is twice. Then, either keep [her] in an acceptable manner or release [her] with good treatment. And it is not lawful for you to take anything of what you have given them unless both fear that they will not be able to keep [within] the limits of Allah. But if you fear that they will not keep [within] the limits of Allah, then there is no blame upon either of them concerning that by which she ransoms herself. These are the limits of Allah, so do not transgress them. And whoever transgresses the limits of Allah – it is those who are the wrongdoers.


الإسلام و المسيحية........... Islam und Christentum - YouTub

احمد ديدات الزواج و الطلاق فالإسلام - راااااائع - YouTube
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#13029 - 23/05/2012 16:10 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: lindoooo]
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En af de par og halvfjerds jomfruer..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVrfHXnUJFc





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#13030 - 24/05/2012 04:06 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: Simon]
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#13031 - 24/05/2012 08:36 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: lindoooo]
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#13033 - 24/05/2012 14:24 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: lindoooo]
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Islam respect women, you must be joking, greater unrespect you wouldn´t find in another religion.
I just read in a newspaper, that 400 muslim girls in a school was poisened with some white powder, muslims doesn´t like the girls to be educated, maybe they would even turn up to be wiser than the stupid muslim boys, who I feel sorry for, because their stupidness is forced upon them by their religion, they have to act like they are the masters of the world.

And the poor girls is supposed to grow up uneducated, just to be child producing machines, and kiss the feet of their husbonds, so they can see they belong in the darkness of islam.

This poisen case is just another, there have been several cases just like it, and in one case the brainless muslims by accident even poisened around 200 boys together with a lot of girls.

But we in the west knows that muslim girls is much wiser than muslim boys, because many of them turn to western tradition and dress like all other normal people here, even if they have to cut the ties to their families and seek refugee so they don´t get killed by their stupid brothers or uncles, and the boys are mostly in for crimes, gangs, selling drugs a.s.o.
just look at the list of crimes in every west country,who are mostly represented in relation to the population.

Yes muhammad the prophet p.u.h. is great, and if you knew where he came form, you all would feel ashamed.

Maybe your koran says all these good things, why does nobody live up to it.??

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#13049 - 25/05/2012 19:15 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: treram]
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Islam har stor respekt for kvinder. Kender du de omstændigheder, en kvinde lever i tiden før islam i Saudi-Arabien? Pigerne vil blive begravet barnet levende for at formilde guderne er lavet af tørret pulp historie. Han betragtede ægteskab noget af situationen, men islam gør det kontrakt, som gav rettigheder til kvinder. Og kvinder kan ...

De ville ikke turde at sige "nej" før, som slaver. I modsætning til den vestlige verden, hvor skilsmisse er relativt ualmindeligt, at den moderne æra, og præsentation af islam, at kvinder kan initiere skilsmisse, og de kan opnå velstand gennem arv og hendes familie. Patriarkalsk karakter af pre-islamisk arabisk kultur påvirkes ikke blot indholdet af læren om den hellige Koran og fortalte, stadig eksisterer i dag i fortolkningen og anvendelsen af ​​den islamiske tro. Dette er grunden til de fleste af jer ikke forstår og ikke kan lide islam. Vidste du, at den første hustru af profeten

var som 15 år ældre end han? Og hun var en forretningskvinde. Og mener, at alle de mærkelige ting på det tidspunkt. Watt kaldte den skotske historiker Mohammed, en fighter og fortaler for kvinders rettigheder. Jeg prøvede at sammenligne en mand, der levede +1400 år til de idealer og nutidens samfund. Sammenlignes med dem, der boede omkring dem. Sammenlign ideer Muhammed og læren af ​​650 meter. Sammenligning mellem ham og de synspunkter og ideer om livet, mennesker / kvinder / krig / lov / hygiejne / uddannelse / økonomi. Du vil se, og enige om, at Muhammad var forud for sin tid.

Baseret på Genève-konventionerne om krigen krigens love indført ved Muhammad. Islam og fordømte aristokratisk privilegium, afviste hierarki, og vedtog formel karriere åben for talenter. Sagde noget til dig om ægteskab Muhhamed tidligere, næsten alle ægteskaber var politisk og Muhamemd baseret på den arabiske skik. For at fremme national enhed, for at vise folk, hvad der er rigtigt og hvad der er galt. Før det blev afsløret i Koranen, er der ingen øvre grænse for polygami for mænd, og mange andre havde snesevis af koner, nogle endda hundredvis, såsom kvæg.

"Gift dig med kvinder af dit valg, to, eller tre, eller fire, men hvis I frygter ikke at kunne håndtere retfærdigt (med dem), så kun én." [Al-Qur'an 04:03]

Islam sætter en øvre grænse på fire koner. Islam giver en mand tilladelse til at gifte sig med to eller tre eller fire kvinder, kun på den betingelse, at aftalen retfærdigt med dem.

Surat i samme kapitel er der ingen al-Nisa '(kvinder) "og vil ikke være i stand til at være lig [i følelsen] mellem koner, selvom du bør stræbe efter [at gøre det]. Så gør ikke hælde helt [mod en], og lad en anden hængende, og hvis du ændrer [jeres affærer] og frygten for Gud -. Så i virkeligheden, er Gud tilgivende, barmhjertig end nogensinde, og "[Al-Qur'an 4:129].

Hvorfor siger jeg det til dig? Jeg håber, jeg har lavet dette ægteskab koncept er meget mere udtalt.

Mohammed sagde også til sine tilhængere, at "den bedste af jer er gode til deres koner." En anden af ​​mine mest foretrukne citater af Muhammed er "virkelig, er himlen falder under fødderne på vores mor."


Jeg ved, du ikke kan lide islam,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI3zSls3sk4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=8P3564SOQ-k&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=PS_TbmJ4H1g&NR=1


Islam has high regard for Women. Do you know the conditions women were living under in pre-Islam Arabia? Baby girls would be buried alive to appease Gods made of dried date pulp. Marriage was considered something of status, but Islam made it a contract that gave women rights. A women couldn't ... wouldn't dare say "no" before, they were like slaves. In contrast to the Western world where divorce was relatively uncommon until modern times; Islam introduced that a woman can initiate a divorce, that she could gain inheritance and wealth through her family. The patriarchal character of pre-Islamic Arabic culture influenced not only the content of the Qur'an and related doctrine, it persists today in the interpretation and application of Islamic dogma. That's why most of you don't understand and don't like Islam. Did you know the Prophet's first wife was like 15 years his senior? And that she was a businesswoman. Both things were considered weird at the time. Scottish historian Watt has called Muhammed a fighter and promoter of Women's Rights. You're trying to compared a man who lived +1400 years ago to the ideals and today's society. Compared him to those he lived around. Compare Muhammed to the thoughts and teaching of 650 AD. Compared him to the ideas and thoughts that people had about life / women / war / law / hygiene / education / economics. You'll see and agree that Muhammed was ahead of his time.

The Geneva war conventions are based on laws of war introduced by Muhammed. Islam denounced aristocratic privilege, rejected hierarchy, and adopted a formula of the career open to the talents. You mentioned something about Muhhamed's marriage earlier; almost all of Muhamemd marriages were political and were based on the Arabian custom. To promote unity, to show people what is right and wrong. Before the Qur'an was revealed, there was no upper limit for polygamy and many men had scores of wives, some even hundreds, like cattle.

"Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one." [Al-Qur'an 4:3]

Islam put an upper limit of four wives. Islam gives a man permission to marry two, three or four women, only on the condition that he deals justly with them.

In the same chapter i.e. Surat An-Nisa '(The Women) "And you will never be able to be equal [in feeling] between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. So do not incline completely [toward one] and leave another hanging . And if you amend [your affairs] and fear Allah - then indeed, Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful. " [Al-Qur'an 4:129]

What does this tell you? I hope I've made the concept is marriage a lot more clearer.

Muhammad also said to his followers that "the best amongst you are those who are good to their wives." another one of my most favorite sayings by Muhammed is "Verily, Heaven lies under the feet of our mother."


I know you don't like Islam, and I don't expect to change any of your minds with this, but all I ask is give credit where it's due and fact-check before making a statement about something you don't know or understand.
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#13050 - 26/05/2012 05:42 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: lindoooo]
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#13552 - 23/08/2012 18:53 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: lindoooo]
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Please go back to Arab countries. Leave Israel alone as it is written in the Quran Israel belongs to the Jews. If U want to conquer the world u will get killed in the end.
U are backwards in ur beliefs and in ur freedom to question ur beliefs.
Submit to civil society and to modern civilisation. Of get thrown out. Europe is getting close to have had enough.
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#13556 - 25/08/2012 04:10 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: lindoooo]
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da nogen har tippet mit indlæg, må jeg tippe dette indlæg som er en forherligelse af islam, kvinder i islam behandles som kvæg som man kan skvalte og valte med som man lyster, islam har ingen respekt for kvinder whatsoever. Så lindooooá islamitiske indlæg er en uhørt forherligelse af islam og dens tåbelige mænd.

Men islam skal åbenbart fredes herinde????
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#13557 - 25/08/2012 09:45 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: treram]
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Og med hensyn til islam og muslimer, så er islamisk trossamfund kommet op på dupperne, efter at Trine Bramsen (S) udtalte efter stormen på Odense Universitetssygehus af 60-80 voldsmænd fra Volksmose, at hun ville opfordre voldsmændene til at rejse hjem hvor de kom fra.
Islamisk trossamfund skriver at de fordømmer enhver handling og udtalelse der er med til at stigmatisere en hel befolkningsgruppe.

Jamen så de sandelig se at få lært deres befolkningsgruppe at de er i Danmark, hvor deres måde at opføre sig på ikke kan tolereres, her er det danske love der gælder og ingen æreslove efter sharia eller nogen anden dødsyg islamisk lov der kan bruges.

Kriminaliteten blandt andengenerationsindvandrerne er enorm stor og må nedbringes, det er selvfølgelig synd for de få der forstår at leve under danske love, at de kommer i samme gruppe, men dette sker jo når de kriminelles antal er så stort i forhold til den samlede flok.

Men ifølge lindoooo så lever muslimerne efter en god og lærerig bog-koranen, jo det må man sige, det er sandelig en god og lærerig bog, hvis det er der de har lært kriminaliteterne.
Der bliver smidt den ene million efter den anden i Volksmose for at få det til at virke, det ser ud til at være spildte penge i et uendeligt hul, der kunne have været brugt til bedre formål, muslimerne lever i deres egen verden hvor en falsk profet p.o.h. har magten over de uvidendes hoveder, hvortil fornuften ikke har adgang.





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#13562 - 25/08/2012 14:11 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: treram]
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Hej Treram..

"Men islam skal åbenbart fredes herinde?".

- Nejda. Denne religion indeholder jo så mange besynderlige påbud om og til kvinder, skabt i senantikken og af mænd med hovedet under armen, at den slags selvfølgelig må og ska' kritiseres. Så lad du bare lindo nyde sin egen store forargelse, det gir åbenbart et lille kick.
Desuden er lindo jo lige så lidt som Arne er det, istand til at argumentere for hvad disse overtroiske gamle idéer om naturen skal bruges til og forklare om livet i og omkring os anno 2012, hvorfor begge jo bare gentager samme idéer i en uendelighed, pust roligt Treram..;)

"Og med hensyn til islam og muslimer, så er islamisk trossamfund kommet op på dupperne, efter at Trine Bramsen (S) udtalte efter stormen på Odense Universitetssygehus af 60-80 voldsmænd fra Volksmose, at hun ville opfordre voldsmændene til at rejse hjem hvor de kom fra".

- Mange af ungerne er sikkert født og opvokset i Danmark, hvilket i sig selv gør udvisning lidt problematisk. Og hvad akkurat denne gruppe angår, må man jo sige at de opfører sig som en flok forkælede teenagere ingen har styr på, da slet ikke deres forældre. Hvis ellers disse små poder blev introduceret for islamiske lovsange tidligt i livet, må man jo bare erkende at heller ikke dét hjælp meget på en selvforståelse. Deres livsforståelse er imidlertid underordnet, og det burde være muligt for politiet at hente samtlige ud af miliøet og anbringe hver enkelt uden kontakt til det, når det drejer sig om livstruende opførsel og terroriseren af af et helt bymiljø.

Men politikere vil som vanlig hellere bruge tiden på at profilere sig selv i stedet for at gøre hvad der må gøres, og så kan mennesker der bor i området eller omegnen, så ellers bare få lov til at leve med deres børn i et miljø fyldt med kriminelle tosser. Sådan har det jo været i årevis og intet er forandret. Jeg gætter på at intet vil ske denne gang heller, andet end vi gang på gang bare vil se/høre politikere udtale deres store forargelse og deltagelse, når mennesker slås ihjel og maltrakteres, for det er, hvad de har at byde på Treram - sådan er levebrødspolitikere...

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#13566 - 25/08/2012 16:33 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: Simon]
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Hejsan Simon.
Og "sjovt" nok så er en af voldsmændene kommet fra Tyrkiet sammen med sin mor og 11 søskende, mit ene indlæg røg over i papirkurven fordi jeg sagde som Glistrup engang sagde at de f.b.s.r. jeg mente nu de får børn som ænder, hvis det da går an, men vi får se.

Jo jeg puster ganske roligt, selvom jeg af og til mister vejret.

Hvad angår de forkælede muslimske drengebørn, så skal de muligvis finde andre steder at bo, nu hvor nogle socialdemokrater truer med at rive indtil flere blokke ned i Vollsmose, men mon det ikke bare flytter problemet et andet sted hen??. Men som du siger, det er måske bare tomme trusler.

Og lindoooo plaprer nok bare videre med sine koran forherligelser.



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#13568 - 25/08/2012 17:10 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: treram]
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Ohøj igen..

"lindoooo plaprer nok bare videre med sine koran forherligelser".

- Ja, der er ikke andet i ærmet.

"Hvad angår de forkælede muslimske drengebørn, så skal de muligvis finde andre steder at bo, nu hvor nogle socialdemokrater truer med at rive indtil flere blokke ned i Vollsmose, men mon det ikke bare flytter problemet et andet sted hen??. Men som du siger, det er måske bare tomme trusler".

- Det er kun ord og ret typisk fra dén kant: de tror de ka' snakke alvorlige problemer ihjel, alt imens forpestes så menneskers liv i nabolaget. Så det er ikke andet end et misbrug af en ganske alvorlig situation - og det er præcis hvad jeg mener karakteriserer nutidens levebrødspolitikere!

"Og "sjovt" nok så er en af voldsmændene kommet fra Tyrkiet sammen med sin mor og 11 søskende, mit ene indlæg røg over i papirkurven fordi jeg sagde som Glistrup engang sagde at de f.b.s.r. jeg mente nu de får børn som ænder, hvis det da går an, men vi får se".

- Dem der rent faktisk kan udvises og under henvisning til, at de ikke er modne nok til at bo i et åbent samfund med demokratiske spilleregler, bør udvises. Ja, man burde rent faktisk anklage forældrene for ikke at ha' mere styr på deres børn, hvilket gælder uanset folks nationalitet og livssyn.

Jeg gir nu ikke meget for det populistiske DF eller for datidens Fremskridtsparti, dermed heller ikke for Glistrup - som jeg syntes man personligt ødelagde, i stedetfor at argumentere bedre imod hans synspunkter. Det var en farce.
Dermed mener jeg bare, at problemerne vi nu ser ikke igen bør bruges som interne skuespil partierne imellem, men ses i øjnene og løses for at hjælpe de mennesker der er udsat for disse kriminelle bander. I mine øjne skulle grænserne lukkes og vi selv bestemme hvem der skal ind i landet - ikke EU, som ikke har bestilt andet end homogenisere økonomiske og kulturelle problemer, uden på nogen måde at ha' andet at stimulere end verdens storbanker, som om det var dem der skulle skabe de politiske rammer for velfærd og indbyrdes trivsel. Alle de skuespil, som kun får problemer til at slumre og vokse, til de eksploderer, er rige mennesker ligeglade med, de flygter jo bare når problemerne blir for store. Idéen med et demokrati er jo, at befolkningen vælger og vrager mellem et udsnit af politikere man mener repræsenterer befolkningens uensartede synspunkter. Nu er selv det blevet et skuespil, hvor ingen kan regne med nogen og så må afgive deres stemmer i matematisk favør. Der må ryddes op, og politikere der alligevel ingen alternativer har at byde på, skulle ud af klappen. Hvem fanden ville fx. ansætte en kirurger hvis eneste håndværk var retorik? Nå, nok om det.

"Jo jeg puster ganske roligt, selvom jeg af og til mister vejret".

- Ja, jeg håber da også du passer godt på vejret dit Treram, for du sku' gerne bidrage på debatten her gode år fremover. Har godt set du har lidt problemer, håber du klarer dem henad vejen med ekspertice fra lægefaglige. Men ha' en god weekend og lad dig endelig ikke gå på af et bidrag til skraldespanden, der er jo røget mange finker fra panden i tidens løb, men det gør nu ikke kolibrier til jetjagere, ved du ;)

mvh
Simon


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