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#13031 - 24/05/2012 08:36 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: lindoooo]
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#13033 - 24/05/2012 14:24 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: lindoooo]
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Islam respect women, you must be joking, greater unrespect you wouldn´t find in another religion.
I just read in a newspaper, that 400 muslim girls in a school was poisened with some white powder, muslims doesn´t like the girls to be educated, maybe they would even turn up to be wiser than the stupid muslim boys, who I feel sorry for, because their stupidness is forced upon them by their religion, they have to act like they are the masters of the world.

And the poor girls is supposed to grow up uneducated, just to be child producing machines, and kiss the feet of their husbonds, so they can see they belong in the darkness of islam.

This poisen case is just another, there have been several cases just like it, and in one case the brainless muslims by accident even poisened around 200 boys together with a lot of girls.

But we in the west knows that muslim girls is much wiser than muslim boys, because many of them turn to western tradition and dress like all other normal people here, even if they have to cut the ties to their families and seek refugee so they don´t get killed by their stupid brothers or uncles, and the boys are mostly in for crimes, gangs, selling drugs a.s.o.
just look at the list of crimes in every west country,who are mostly represented in relation to the population.

Yes muhammad the prophet p.u.h. is great, and if you knew where he came form, you all would feel ashamed.

Maybe your koran says all these good things, why does nobody live up to it.??

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#13049 - 25/05/2012 19:15 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: treram]
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Islam har stor respekt for kvinder. Kender du de omstændigheder, en kvinde lever i tiden før islam i Saudi-Arabien? Pigerne vil blive begravet barnet levende for at formilde guderne er lavet af tørret pulp historie. Han betragtede ægteskab noget af situationen, men islam gør det kontrakt, som gav rettigheder til kvinder. Og kvinder kan ...

De ville ikke turde at sige "nej" før, som slaver. I modsætning til den vestlige verden, hvor skilsmisse er relativt ualmindeligt, at den moderne æra, og præsentation af islam, at kvinder kan initiere skilsmisse, og de kan opnå velstand gennem arv og hendes familie. Patriarkalsk karakter af pre-islamisk arabisk kultur påvirkes ikke blot indholdet af læren om den hellige Koran og fortalte, stadig eksisterer i dag i fortolkningen og anvendelsen af ​​den islamiske tro. Dette er grunden til de fleste af jer ikke forstår og ikke kan lide islam. Vidste du, at den første hustru af profeten

var som 15 år ældre end han? Og hun var en forretningskvinde. Og mener, at alle de mærkelige ting på det tidspunkt. Watt kaldte den skotske historiker Mohammed, en fighter og fortaler for kvinders rettigheder. Jeg prøvede at sammenligne en mand, der levede +1400 år til de idealer og nutidens samfund. Sammenlignes med dem, der boede omkring dem. Sammenlign ideer Muhammed og læren af ​​650 meter. Sammenligning mellem ham og de synspunkter og ideer om livet, mennesker / kvinder / krig / lov / hygiejne / uddannelse / økonomi. Du vil se, og enige om, at Muhammad var forud for sin tid.

Baseret på Genève-konventionerne om krigen krigens love indført ved Muhammad. Islam og fordømte aristokratisk privilegium, afviste hierarki, og vedtog formel karriere åben for talenter. Sagde noget til dig om ægteskab Muhhamed tidligere, næsten alle ægteskaber var politisk og Muhamemd baseret på den arabiske skik. For at fremme national enhed, for at vise folk, hvad der er rigtigt og hvad der er galt. Før det blev afsløret i Koranen, er der ingen øvre grænse for polygami for mænd, og mange andre havde snesevis af koner, nogle endda hundredvis, såsom kvæg.

"Gift dig med kvinder af dit valg, to, eller tre, eller fire, men hvis I frygter ikke at kunne håndtere retfærdigt (med dem), så kun én." [Al-Qur'an 04:03]

Islam sætter en øvre grænse på fire koner. Islam giver en mand tilladelse til at gifte sig med to eller tre eller fire kvinder, kun på den betingelse, at aftalen retfærdigt med dem.

Surat i samme kapitel er der ingen al-Nisa '(kvinder) "og vil ikke være i stand til at være lig [i følelsen] mellem koner, selvom du bør stræbe efter [at gøre det]. Så gør ikke hælde helt [mod en], og lad en anden hængende, og hvis du ændrer [jeres affærer] og frygten for Gud -. Så i virkeligheden, er Gud tilgivende, barmhjertig end nogensinde, og "[Al-Qur'an 4:129].

Hvorfor siger jeg det til dig? Jeg håber, jeg har lavet dette ægteskab koncept er meget mere udtalt.

Mohammed sagde også til sine tilhængere, at "den bedste af jer er gode til deres koner." En anden af ​​mine mest foretrukne citater af Muhammed er "virkelig, er himlen falder under fødderne på vores mor."


Jeg ved, du ikke kan lide islam,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI3zSls3sk4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=8P3564SOQ-k&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=PS_TbmJ4H1g&NR=1


Islam has high regard for Women. Do you know the conditions women were living under in pre-Islam Arabia? Baby girls would be buried alive to appease Gods made of dried date pulp. Marriage was considered something of status, but Islam made it a contract that gave women rights. A women couldn't ... wouldn't dare say "no" before, they were like slaves. In contrast to the Western world where divorce was relatively uncommon until modern times; Islam introduced that a woman can initiate a divorce, that she could gain inheritance and wealth through her family. The patriarchal character of pre-Islamic Arabic culture influenced not only the content of the Qur'an and related doctrine, it persists today in the interpretation and application of Islamic dogma. That's why most of you don't understand and don't like Islam. Did you know the Prophet's first wife was like 15 years his senior? And that she was a businesswoman. Both things were considered weird at the time. Scottish historian Watt has called Muhammed a fighter and promoter of Women's Rights. You're trying to compared a man who lived +1400 years ago to the ideals and today's society. Compared him to those he lived around. Compare Muhammed to the thoughts and teaching of 650 AD. Compared him to the ideas and thoughts that people had about life / women / war / law / hygiene / education / economics. You'll see and agree that Muhammed was ahead of his time.

The Geneva war conventions are based on laws of war introduced by Muhammed. Islam denounced aristocratic privilege, rejected hierarchy, and adopted a formula of the career open to the talents. You mentioned something about Muhhamed's marriage earlier; almost all of Muhamemd marriages were political and were based on the Arabian custom. To promote unity, to show people what is right and wrong. Before the Qur'an was revealed, there was no upper limit for polygamy and many men had scores of wives, some even hundreds, like cattle.

"Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one." [Al-Qur'an 4:3]

Islam put an upper limit of four wives. Islam gives a man permission to marry two, three or four women, only on the condition that he deals justly with them.

In the same chapter i.e. Surat An-Nisa '(The Women) "And you will never be able to be equal [in feeling] between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. So do not incline completely [toward one] and leave another hanging . And if you amend [your affairs] and fear Allah - then indeed, Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful. " [Al-Qur'an 4:129]

What does this tell you? I hope I've made the concept is marriage a lot more clearer.

Muhammad also said to his followers that "the best amongst you are those who are good to their wives." another one of my most favorite sayings by Muhammed is "Verily, Heaven lies under the feet of our mother."


I know you don't like Islam, and I don't expect to change any of your minds with this, but all I ask is give credit where it's due and fact-check before making a statement about something you don't know or understand.
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#13050 - 26/05/2012 05:42 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: lindoooo]
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#13552 - 23/08/2012 18:53 Re: Confessions of the West [Re: lindoooo]
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Please go back to Arab countries. Leave Israel alone as it is written in the Quran Israel belongs to the Jews. If U want to conquer the world u will get killed in the end.
U are backwards in ur beliefs and in ur freedom to question ur beliefs.
Submit to civil society and to modern civilisation. Of get thrown out. Europe is getting close to have had enough.
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